Polina: During this time your role is to make a way out of no way. Art has such potential. What do you think, is the virus here to teach us something? What can we learn from it? Do you hold a spiritual perspective on this time?
George: It’s definitely the physical, the spiritual, the mental, and the emotional. Those are all connected. For those of us that have time and space to even be able to think about these things, because there are a lot of people who don’t have that space and that opportunity right now, this is really a good time to think about what is important and what’s not working in our system.
Thinking about things like that and the planet and nature. We are seeing all these animals come back, pollution is clearing, and you can see stars in the sky. I think that is a very total and obvious result of everything being put on pause. I definitely think that it is a really good opportunity for us to reflect on what's working and what’s not. How do we want to move forward coming out of all of this?
Amber: Just having this extra spaciousness in time has really allowed more space to go introspective a little bit more. It’s like all the things are coming up because there is so much time, and my mind has so much more space that I can actually dive deeper into things. That’s definitely a thing.
Also I’m really counting my blessings. We’re just very blessed to have a roof over our heads, food, and music in our lives and to have able bodies to still dance. I’m holding a lot of compassion for those who may not have that access at this moment.
I actually have a lot of relatives and friends that are working in the medical industry, and they are on different lines. I am holding a lot of love and tenderness for them and wanting to take back responsibility personally to really do the sheltering and stay home. I want to be responsible in those ways, and to really hold those that are a little more at risk in our hearts and minds.
Polina: What gives you hope during this time?
George: Acknowledging that it’s such a difficult situation for a lot of people right now, and at the same time this type of situation can really bring out the best and the worst of people, so to speak. In terms of the acts of kindness and the way people are supporting one another, I think it is a touching thing to see.
Mentioning looking to those elders and spiritual figures and communities all around, and just listening to what they have to say. And art - art gives me hope. My community. One thing is definitely seeing social media and the type of discussions happening and the amount of people that are acknowledging that some things are really not working anymore. It just feels like there is so much potential and momentum around people wanting something different. I think that’s one of the big things for me personally.
Amber: I do feel closer to a lot of folks at the same time. I am reconnecting with friends I haven’t spoken to so often and just making it a point to reach out to people more and check in with people. That in itself is a reminder that we are all in it together and that we are all around the globe in this together.
Also, nature. Seeing all these birds that I haven’t seen before. It’s so beautiful. The flowers are blooming. Those things make me feel really hopeful. Life is happening and these beautiful things are going to bloom from this.
Polina: As a last question, I am wondering what message you would give to artists, especially to young artists, right now.
Amber: My message is just to remind them that we are all in this together, we are all learning. I don’t want to say, “Keep creating, keep dancing.” Some people might not be in that space, but I will say that art is so very healing. I know that it has saved my life many times. If there is any tiny bit of hope towards that, I’d say to really take that seed, to nurture it, and to see it grow.
Whatever art can do for you - if you are feeling that spark, follow that spark. It doesn’t have to look like anybody else’s ways of doing it, but to know that it is always there, it’s always accessible in any way.
George: Even if you are having challenges, really try and push through and keep creating from that really raw place within yourself. Whether you want to express that joy and celebration for what you are grateful for, or whether you want to express that grief and that sadness and that anger and despair. Either way, as long as you are creating from that authentic place inside and to be able to share that and be felt. I think that’s the healing process for the individual and for the collective. I think that’s what we really need right now to get us through this time.
Polina: Thank you both so much. May beautiful seeds be planted during this time, even if we don’t know what their fruits are.
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